Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:28:42 -0500
From: Hazel Sluga hsluga@flash.net
To: GLASS-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: 38F63C09.FD9C7151@flash.net
Subject: Re: GLASS-D Digest V00 #36
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Dear Bruce, I have been reading the email below concerning Beth Kissel doing
research and it is bringing back memories my family is, even now, trying to
resolve. I paid a professional researcher to do some research for me in
Ireland and, at first, we were so happy to receive the information that we
paid and accepted it to be true. I even sent her report out to Glass descendants
who
had petitioned me for information - one was Mike Glass @gulftel.com.
Then we ran into some descrepancies regarding some crucial dates. One
of the descrepancies had to do with the age of Samuel Glass, the emigrant,
which didn't match date of departure with his age. The following is what I
put on his "notes" page in order to explain it,
"Jan 11, 1998
Research done by Diana Hanson, Irish Researcher, states "Samuel Glass,
born about 1680 in Banbridge, County Down, Ireland, Emigrated 4 June
1734, age 59 from Drogheda, Ireland for America died in Winchester,
Frederick, VA" I deducted that if he emigrated at age 59, that would put the
date he settled here in America at 1739. When I questioned her about this,
she said it could be a mistake of one kind or another and that age 54 would
be what she would accept and so I did, too." So she essentially disputed
her own reference information that she had supposedly researched. but now, my
sister and I are
wondering if her references are fraudulent since one of her references(on
our Daniel side of the family) gave us a different "last" name than what we
originally had and other family members say they don't think she is right. I
did try to contact Diane to ask about references and copies, but she was no
where to be found by then. At one point, I became so desperate to locate
her that I asked the "newspaper group on genealogy" if anyone knew where
she could be reached (I could no longer contact her at her old email
address). I received an answer from one of them, I wrote her there, and
was told she would get back with me, but she never did. I discussed it with
my sister, Oleta, and we decided that, since she had cancer - (she had told
me this in an earlier email) that we would not bother her further. We have
been so frustrated over this and have been trying to decide how to handle it
in notifying other Glass descendants it may have affected. Below is a copy,
verbatim, of the report she sent to me over the net - nothing has been
changed from what she reported to me: Any comments would be
appreciated after reading her report: Thank you. Hazel Sluga
GLASS FAMILY RESEARCH IN IRELAND
(Received from Diane Hanson (Irish Genie) Sunday, January 11, 1998)
This is kinda of confusing so I'm going to give you the results first and then
the records searched so that, hopefully, it makes more sense. So here
goes! (Her words)
Samuel Glass born about 1680 in Banbridge, County Down, Ireland.
Emigrated 4 Jun. 1734, age 59 from Drogheda, County Down, Ireland for
America
died in Winchester, Frederick, VA.
married to:
Mary Gamble born about 1685 in Banbridge, County Down, Ireland.
Emigrated 4 Jun. 1734, age 49 from Drogheda, Ireland for America.
Died after 1735 in Winchester, Frederick, VA.
Samuel Glass (the emigrant) was the son of John Glass 1618-1692, and
Sarah 1622-1684.
Mary Gamble was the daughter of David Gamble 1631-1684, and Elizabeth
1635-1689
David Gamble was the son of Joseph Gamble and Catherine.
Sources Checked:
1659 Census of Ireland - Nil
Banbridge - Gravestone Series Down. No. 20 in the Down Public Library.
Banbridge Parish Registers start in 1756 so there was nothing that would
help.
Cemetery Records - Banbridge
John Glass 1618-1692
Sarah 1622-1684
Patrick Glass 1622-1689
Anne Glass 1625=1695
Fexlis Glass 1627-1692
Catherine 1631-1671
David Gamble 1632-1684
Elizabeth Gamble 1635-1689
John Gamble 1630-1690
Moira Gamble 1630-1691
Joseph Gamble - dates unreadable
Catherine - dates unreadable
Index to Prerogative Wills - 1706-1856
Glass, Edward, Athlone (executrix) 1755
John Glass, Clonowen, Co., Roscommon, Esq.. 1 ‘781 (probably means
1781)
Margaret Glass Clarendon-St.., Dublin, Widow 1789
Richard Glass Athlone Co., Roscommon, Gent. 1738
Mary Teresa Daniel born about 9 Dec 1829 in Galway, Ireland emigrated
from Westport, Galway on 3 June l828 to America as part of John Daniel
family.
dau of John Daniel born about 1795 married 21 Apr 1818 to Honoria B.
Jordan.
John Daniel was son of John and Bridget Daniel.
Sources:
Westport Emigration Lists (Parish custody)
Jon Daniel family from Fahy, Galway left 3 Jun 1828 to America
Fahey Parish Gravestone inscriptions
John Daniel - 1750 - 1823
Bridget Daniel -1760 - 1824
Edward Daniel - 1789 - 1793 (John and Bridget's son?)
Vestry Minutes - Fahy Parish
John Daniel and Honoria Jordan bonds read m. 21 Apr 1818
son of John and Bridget Daniel
dau of Edward and Anne Brown
Abstract of Wills - Prerogative Court of Wills
John Daniel (S of Mr. Bridges Daniel) nephew and god son of John Wade
d. 7 Sep 1730
Cassandra Daniel dau of John Cooke dated 5 May 1730
Jane Daniel (w of Henry Daniel) witness to will of Robert Whitefield dated
23 Oct 1718
James Daniel wit. Cornelius Conner 1 Sep 1719.
Matthew Daniel (clerk to Wm. Devall, public notary, Dublin) wit. Anne
Dowling 5 Jan. 1736.
Richard Daniel, Junr. Wit. Lady Honoria Piers of Dublin 11 Mar 1707.
Thomas Glass , Tialor (probably Tailor(hs)) - wit. William Hudson of Dublin
15 Dec 1713
Mary Daniel, Widow - dau of Henry Armstrong 11 Apr 1767.
Matthew Daniel, Dublin, Scrivener - wit to George Taffe 16 Apr 1756 wit.
Robert Staines 5 Sep 1751
Sarah Daniel (wife of John Daniel , Leeds, York ) niece of James Swift,
Dublin, Merchant.
Edward Glass Dublin, gent, wit, Michael Rainsford 11 Dec 1756
Francis Glass - sis of Catherine Campbell (wife of Colin Campbell)
George Daniel, yeoman, Donabate, Co. Dublin 1729
John Daniel, Clomel, Co. Pipperary 1834 W
Nicholas Charles Daniel, Wetbrooke, Dorset, 1834
Daniell, Stennous, Carrickmacross, Co., Monghan 1777 Will
Also checked Ireland Census of 1659 - Nil
Ny & NJ Passengers Lists 1600 - 1825 - Nil
Irish Passenger Lists 1847-71 - Nil
Irish Emigration 1833-39 - Nil
1720 List of Landed Gentry - Co. Down and Antrim - Nil
I spent a total of five hours at $30. And although there are other records I
could have spent time on, they can be ordered through the FHC and cost
you much less to have me search here, than in Ireland. I didn't want to
spend too much time without talking to you more. Those records still to be
searched are:
1631 Muster Roll of County Down SLC 990025
1642 Muster Roll of County Down SLC 897012
1660 Poll Tax Extracts 993164
1663 Subsidy Roll - SLC 1279356
A History of Banbridge - Banbridge Chronicle Press
Hope it helps!
Diana
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